Am I correct that you were
born in Argentina? What city and when was that?
Yes, Buenos Aires, 1973
I know you recently got your degree for the conservatory of music in
Amsterdam. Is that initially what brought you to Amsterdam? Or was it something
else?
I wanted to travel out of Argentina and to study and looking for that
combination I ended up in Amsterdam. But for example at that time Cuba
was also a possibility.
What ended up making you choose to go to Amsterdam in the Netherlands
rather than Cuba?
It was a confluence of factors more than just one. But I think that
the fact that I have EU passport made a huge difference, here I can
work and stay, study and
travel. Who knows !?! May be I go to Cuba after all these years !!!!!
What is that keeps you in Amsterdam now?
I love free improvised music and Amsterdam is a great place for it,
I love interdisciplinary work and that's also happening a lot here.
I feel I have a nice group of people here, musicians, artists. I have
found some people with whom I love to play and create. Amsterdam gives
me a lot of possibilities in many senses.
But I don't take things for granted, I'm always re-thinking my self
and where to be, I like to keep the chances open.
You recorded your
first CD as the Celano-Baggiani Group Figuras in 2005 on BAU records
(Buenos Aires Underground). Was
this your first time in
the recording studio?
No, but it was the 1st time that my work got released through a label.
Tell me how you started working with Guillermo Celano?
The 1st jam session that I played in Amsterdam was with him!!
He’s from Buenos Aires, we never met there but the connection here
was strong.
From that time we jam a lot together. I admire him as musician and as a
person.
I’m very glad to be working with him!
Your latest release Simple
Songs you have saxophonist/clarinetist
Michael Moore on a tracks. Had you worked with Michael on any other
projects prior
to this CD?
Around 3 years ago, I was gathering a laboratory on music, dance and
light improvisation and we invited Michael to play. He has been
involved in interdisciplinary improvisation for a long time already.
Also around that time, we started with Guillermo to organize a jam session
in order to play more often and to tryout our music. We invited Michael
several times to play with us and through that process we came with the
idea of making a recording with him. He was always willing to make music
and he was also bringing his own music to the sessions. Working with
Michael Moore is a privilege and a real pleasure. He is a lovely person
and man of knowledge. I really love his playing.
How do you work together as a group to come up with the arrangements
that you have on these recordings?
Guillermo and me jam a lot together with different musicians. The process
of working out the material is very natural. Guillermo is a great composer
and we like to create space for the music to happen. We try to play
as much as we can the songs that will be record, so when the time of
recording comes, we know what we want.
How you describe the differences between Figuras and Simple
Songs?
Figuras is a “Figurative” album, the songs are
describing landscapes, situations, feelings... It is a “nostalgic” CD,
with a lot of references to our home town, our country and friends
in Argentina. It is our first common ground, our roots. Also the sax
player, the great Natalio Sued is from Argentina, so the reference
is strong.
Simple Songs is the consequence of another process, and the
name describes that process. We were getting together to jam and
simple songs are what you bring to jam with people. And Michael has
a simple and direct style and we share that.
Now, your brother Francisco has done the art for both releases
hasn't he?
Yes!!! I love him.
And he lives in Argentina?
Yes, I miss him a lot, he’s one of those I hardly can stand to
have so far away.
I am very interested in these long distance collaborations. I
suppose it was very easy with the internet to send him the music
so that he could
get the
feel of what you were doing musically. How important is it that any
artistic collaboration be felt on a deeper level other than just
liking each others
work?
For me, my brother making the art was just a normal consequence
of needing a cover. Before I came to Amsterdam, We were living
together
and watching his work was part of my life. He is also a music lover,
He introduced me to Ornette Colleman for example. And he also plays
music! He used to play “quena” and “siku” and
more resently electric bass. We were jamming together! And working
with him is a way to have him closer…
When we think about cover art for a CD or album typically we
suppose that the art is somehow inspired by the music. What inspires
you as a musician
and
songwriter?
I have to say that visual arts are a great inspiration for me,
and I include dance on these fields. Also feelings and places
are giving me a great imput. And sound… sound is just… amazing!!!
You have done a fair amount of improvisational work as well
performing written works. It was fantastic to watch you perform
with Steve Cohn
and Michael Moore
at the Mo(ve)ment Meets Musicians shows in Amsterdam, (September
07) How is improvisational work different for you from performing
other music?
This is a interesting and deep matter. It is totally different
and yet the same. At the end is music and so is sound and so
is communication.
But dealing with compositions requires a conscious presence that could
be annoying if you are improvising. Let´s say that to get some
freedom through structured music you need to know so well the structure
that your body just follows
it as
a natural
path.
I love to do both works! It gives me so much and kicks my as
at the same time.
Is there different set of preparations you need to make when
getting ready to improvise?
Totally, improvising for me is almost a religious situation. It is
a sort of meditation and also a philosphical activity. So the preparation
is more related to a mental state.
Is there a big difference to working with dancers as your
main collaborators as compared to other musicians?
It depends on the artists (dancers or musicians) rather than
on the discipline. But I love the way dancers are involved
with their whole being into the art. Many musicians (many artists)
think that this type of collaborations are a degradation of the “pure” arts.
But for me is a total liberation, because when you work with other
disciplines,
the common ground is not a chord or a note
or a style
but the creative idea,
the upper structure (or deeper, as you want to call it) The
communication and meta-communication within the group and with the
audience, the presence of ideas and spirits, etc.
During Mo(ve)ment Meets Musicians you also had the added
dimension of live painting projected on the wall in the venue.
How did that
extra element
add to
the overall dialogue that took place during those performances?
I really loved it! It was a beautiful experience. Also
a “coming
truth” of a collaboration, because
of my brother and my work with dancers, was sticking in my
head for a while. For me it was not the live painting but the projection
of it what really gave me work. I’m a “screen” man,
a person who grew up watching TV too many hours a day; so a big screen
with constant flow
of information would suck
my
attention very easily. It is not the 1st time I work with
screen on stage but it is the first time that the information is able
to change, grow,
die… let’s
say, to be alive! But Tali was on stage also and that was
giving the room for another connections with the painter.
The presence of Benno on the space was also helping to change
the focus. And off course these amazing musicians Steve Cohn
and Michael Moore!!
What is next for you Marcos?
We are working on a new recording with Guillermo, also with
Michael Moore and Sven Schuster but including a 5th musician,
probably
Gorka Benitez, a
tenor sax
from Barcelona. This will happen very soon. I keep on working
on Trytone Fetival, making the program of the monthly events. I’m
always around interdisciplinary improvisation, especially
working with dancers. I’m doing collaborations with
some great improvisors, playing here in Amsterdam and hopefully
recording. I’m planning also to go for five or six
month to Buenos Aires next year, to play there and to do
an intense
course of Alexander
Technique. And I hope to be able to organize a tour of
my band there. So, very busy, very busy… But
happy!