Lancaster,
PA, where you grew up is not more than a stones throw from the bustling east coast with all of it's cultural centers and museums. As a young artist this must have been exciting to have easy access to all of that. But your family traveled the world on your family vacations. How to you feel those experiences shaped you as an artist? The family vacations happened over a period of time- from when my brother and I (we are twins) were about 7 years old to when we were 18. It is very hard for a seven year old to appreciate anything. The only things I remember are the things that had intrigued me as a young child. In London it was amusement rides, in Australia it was the animals and the amusement park that I did not get to go to, in Ireland it was all of the sheep/goats in our way as we drove, in Greece it was the thrill of living on a boat, in France interest in museums/art began but what I remember is getting tired and complaining with my brother after we saw the Mona Lisa. (Recent trips have been the most meaningful.) If I thought that I would never go back to all of these places than being a brat on these trips would be the largest regret of my life, but I plan on returning. As an artist / person these trips let me have a taste of what traveling is and the benefits to it. (I just wish I had realized it wh! en I was seven.) oh well. Don't you think that all of that exposure even as a little brat had some overriding influence on the way you look at life now as an artist? yeah, of course. I mean it did I guess I just wish I remembered more about the places that we all went when I was younger. |
(from
my sketchbook)This is a good example of my compulsive behavior that usually comes out in my drawings. Small mark making is something that I enjoy doing, it is a way of concetrating on something that is meaning less. Not to mention that I like how it ends up looking |
Annelies |
The most
important trips I have been on were the ones that I traveled alone. Which is what I have done using the Amtrak train between Lancaster-Philadelphia-New York City. And going to Italy alone is one of the best things for any artist to experience. Italy, hands down. Tell me how making these solo trips is somehow better or more important as you put it? Family or people you love/deeply care about can make you into a completely different person. When you are on your own and you do not know anyone it is just you and yourself. There is no safety net. Some people enjoy that and some people don't. The highly competitive PA Governor's School of Art rejected your application for it's summer program. You said that that has lead you to more enjoyable and meaningful experiences. Explain. How do you feel rejection can be a blessing in disguise? Before I applied to the PAGSA I wasn’t sure if art was the right thing for me and if I was the right thing for art. In high school the only person I knew who was excited about art was my art teacher, Susan Gottlieb. But by applying to the summer program I got to see the incredible atmosphere of PAGSA people that supported art. I hadn’t realized that there is a community that surrounds the process of creating art. It comforted me. But when I got wait listed for the program (not completely rejected at least!) I decided to do an alternate program but in Italy. Rejection is part of being an artist- you just can’t let rejection end anything. |
Rejection
is also the reason I am at Carnegie Mellon University. Rejection is a big part of being an artist, and that is part of the reality that is good to realize. In that light is your being at Carnegie Mellon University a good thing? So far I think it has been the best thing for me. (The best thing about that is that it is impossible to know what it would have been like at other places.) You list John Currin's exhibition in 2003 at the Whitney Museum of Art as one of the most influential contemporary art shows regardless if you think his work is good or bad. First off, do you think his work is good or bad? Why? It was one of the most influential contemporary art shows to me whether his art work is good or bad. I don’t know enough about contemporary art to make a statement relating to contemporary art as a whole like the statement in the question. To me his exhibition at the Whitney was important because it made me realize several things. I love figure painting. And when researching contemporary artists it was rare for me to find a figure painter. John Currin’s 2003 exhibition made me realize figure painting was/is not dead. The good or bad issue: To be honest, some of John Currin’s paintings absolutely make me cringe. While some of them are to me flawless and I could look at them everyday for the rest of my life. Also the day I went to the 2003 Exhibition I read the back of the pamphlet from it and I found out that John Currin went to the same school that I was planning on going to. To say the least, it made me look forward to attending Carnegie Mellon University. |
Ballons
and a Glove (from
my sketchbook) |
Train
Man 1 |
Speaking
of exhibitions and how influential or valid they might be; what in your opinion makes one artist's show more important than an other? Viewing art is a very personal thing to each person. With that said… if I was to guess, a lot of it has to do with luck and coincidence. What other artists have been important to you? Carvaggio, Francis Bacon, De Kooning, German Expressionists, Egon Schiele, Lucian Freud, Andrew Wyeth, Neo Rauch If you could pick one or two things that move you to create art, what would they be? A person sleeping in public Why is that? That is, i don't disagree with you, I am just curious as to part of a person sleeping in public does it for you. It's just a great coincidence if I am in a public place with my sketch book (my sketch book is always on me) and someone is posed perfectly sleeping. They are not moving. When people sleep in public they are completely vunerable. |
(in
my sketchbook) |
The
Architect in Training (in
my sketchbook) |
So
you are working on getting your Bachelor in Fine Arts at CMU? Yes, but soon I have to choose between three concentrations- painting drawing and printmaking OR sculpture installation and site-work OR electronic and time-based work. And let me guess, you are going to be drawing and painting? Oh. I'd say there is a fair chance I will do painting drawing and printmaking. I have a hard time working in 3-D. |
(from
my sketchbook) |
(from
my sketchbook) |
I
have to admit that what drew me to your work were the drawings in your sketchbook. I am not surprised to find out that your sketchbook is as important to you as it is. I also find it wonderful that you have made your sketchbook into an end unto itself rather than simply at place to work out idea for larger pieces. How do you deal with an idea for a larger drawing or painting? When I have to do a larger drawing or painting for a school assignment I still plan it in my sketchbook. But usually notes I take for an assignment or sloppy sketches I do for an assignment usually becomes part of a finished drawing in the sketchbook. Or I simply put some paint over the writing if I do not want to incorporate it in the drawing. All of the planning I do is in my sketchbook, you just can’t see it most of the time. In the description to your painting titled Construction you say you used the same process that you do in your sketchbook. Ummmm, I guess what i want to ask is this; What was more important about this scene or this subject that made you want to do some thing outside of your sketchbook? A sketchbook is a very private thing. When people look at a sketchbook it can feel like an invasion of that artist’s privacy. I want to eliminate the invasion and make my mixed media drawings open for people to view them. |
I
am betting that the first time that you saw your artwork bleeding through to the other side of the page you were sort of disappoint. But for me, this aspect of your sketchbook is one i find the most endearing, especially that you have embraced it so much as to include it in the artwork of the next page. It has become so frequent now I have to wonder, do you ever purposefully draw something on one page with the hope and vision that you will be able to give the drawing a second life on the next page? Yes I do purposefully draw with specific materials so that it appears on a previous page. But pretty rarely. The first time I wasn’t disappointed at all. I think being disappointed with “mistakes” is something that artists do way too often. There is always a way to make a “mistake” better. Another similar example to this is when you finish a drawing or a painting and it takes you until it is finished to realize that the composition is no good. A lot of artists will destroy their work (I believe Francis Bacon did this a lot.) But it is very easy to fix a composition but literally ripping the piece of paper in half. Or adding another element. |
![]() Construction This is one of my most recent/favorite drawings. I live in a large victorian house in a bad neighborhood of Pittsburgh. I have three housemates but I was the first to arrive in August and literally had NOTHING to do around the house for about two weeks. There is a construction site right next to our house that I began to watch often. I finally decided to draw it after living next to it for two weeks. The same tedious small mark making is all over this drawing. But something that I am very proud of is the fact that even though it has very different portions within the compostion it still all fits nicely together. (at least in my mind.) This was also the first drawing I decided to do outside of my sketch book but used the same process as if I was still drawing in my sketchbook. |
The
Reflection of a Reflection (in
my sketchbook) |
The
most powerful piece based on the bleeding drawing of the previous page is "The Reflection of a Reflection", it is really different than most of your work. I have to know, what was the drawing of on the other page that made the initial image that started this piece off? It was the piece titled Erin. This is one of the rare examples of when I drew on the back to make the front a certain way. Actually it might be the only time I have ever done this. |
Your
work seems to flow pretty evenly between objective and abstract or even what be thought of as color field stuff. Where do you see you being? Its funny that you asked me this. Because we just had our first critique in painting class and we had to do a realistic painting. And during the critique my teacher (who is an abstract painter) told me that he thinks I am an abstract painter who was stuck doing something realistic (or objective.) But I feel like I am somewhere in between the two. The other thing about John Currin that I forgot to mention was the fact that when he paints he tries to paint realistically (without deforming the bodies of the women he paints) but it just happens. I feel like this happens when I am sketching in my sketch book and painting – I think it will look one way but stuff just happens that I like so I keep it. What do you think about when do non-objective work? I don’t really think of my work as “non-objective,” abstract yes. |
Erin (in
my sketchbook) |
Beach
Man (from
a drawing class) |
Do
you really think you have a compulsive disorder because you use Yeah he did. In his own special way he did. |
Do
obviously do some work that is much larger and expansive than what is confined to the small pages of your sketchbook. "Drawn in Together" was of course a collaboration with a fellow artist. What else have you been working that is on a large scale? Working large is a constant struggle for me. It is something that going to art school has forced me to try. The largest drawing that I have ever done is the “Drawn in Together which is 4 sheets of 18”x24” paper. The largest art piece I have ever done was for a conceptual class where the assignment was to “map a terrain.” And I decided to map my sleep patterns by putting cinnamon mixed with oil all over my body and go to sleep it made a pretty interesting print on the sheet. Did you go back into this at all to pull out any edges or is this how it came? Nope. This is how it came out. I think gravity forced the cinnamon to the sides of my body. |
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Drawn
in Together (for
a drawing class) |
The
concept of the collaboration, is not entirely new, but seems to be
having at least in some circles a real resurgence. Is collaborating something
that holds any interest to you? Finding someone to collaborate with is somewhat difficult for most artists. “Drawn in Together” was a good collaboration. Jon May and I worked extremely well together. Since it is hard to find people that I can collaborate with successfully, I feel like I should take every opportunity possible that would make a good collaborative relationship. A lot of interesting/amazing things can happen with two people working together. Do you think there is a way two artists working together on a piece of art could ever be a viable way of creating art that would sell? Is the art buying public ready to attach two names to a painting yet? Who cares. A guy was interested in buying this piece this summer, but decided that he didn't want to spend money. I don't want to pretend that I know all of the answers to art marketability. Maybe if you are buying the artwork of two artists at one time you should pay more? who knows. I just asked the guy next to me if he would buy a painting collaborated on by two artists and he said, something like, "yeah like Andy Warhol's and Basquiat's.. if I believed it was substantial and good." I guess it all depends on who is looking at it. |
Fire
Hydrant (in my sketchbook) |
Fenn (in
my sketchbook) |
Do you have
any of the drawings from your latest series of things in and around your house that are ready to be shown? Or will the series need to be completed before they are shown? I am halfway through the second drawing in the series. But I feel like each drawing will be able to stand on its own (or at least I hope.) I have no idea when they will all be done. In interviews people often ask what advise would you give to up and coming artists. But I would ask you, what advice would to have to some one that is about to look at your art work for the first time? Wear your reading glasses if you are far-sighted. |
Self Portrait |
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